With Longsjo coming up in just another 2 weeks, tonight was one of the last Charlie Baker Time Trials I could use to prepare. Early in the season it was my intention to focus on time trialing and be really dialed in by now. That plan was set back when I crashed and totaled my Orbea back in late April. Instead of focusing on TT positions, I spent more time on dialing in my road position on the new Cannondale. Not until the past 2 weeks have I made any significant efforts to work on my position.
This week was a highly experimental week. The “cookie-cutter” position that I’ve been trying to make work just didn’t seem very fast. In fact, it was hardly any faster than the cannibal position with no aero bars. On the plus side it was comfortable and power output was good. I wanted to go the other direction with my position. I wanted to try a position that was aggressive and very aerodynamic, with no concern for comfort/power output.
Also experimental was the equipment. This was the first week I’ve used all the aero toys which include aero bars, aero helmet, disc wheel (covered open pro), carbon front wheel, skinsuit, and shoe covers.
I was well rested for the time trial, coming off of two recovery days. Weather was 67F and about 50% RH with scattered T-storms in the area. The rest would help my time, and the weather would be about average. Warmup was good including a one hour ride to the race followed by a few VO2 max efforts within 15 minutes of the start.
Excitement got the best of me and I started off too hard, 410W for the first minute, 374W for the first two minutes, well above threshold. Heart rate reached 185 bpm 2 minutes into the race. Threshold HR is about 175-180. I realized this early on and tried to settle into a more sustainable pace. I had a fast 30-second guy (with no aero gear) that may have contributed to my going out too hard.
The racer staged 30 seconds behind me caught and passed me in
As we turned onto
Average power for the race was a new low for the season, 252 watts. Average heart rate was 180 bpm, a new high, maybe due to good rest. Power decreased over the course of the race, likely due to a combination going out too hard and becoming uncomfortable in the aggressive position. Average power in 5 minute increments looked like this:
First 5-minute block: 323W
Second 5-minute block: 248W
Third 5-minute block: 232W
Fourth 5-minute block: 220W
Fifth 5-minute block: 231W
Seeing the average power dip below 230W for the last 15 minutes of the race was a big shock. On training rides in road bike position I’ve averaged 230W for literally 3 hours. I think shows just how uncomfortable the aggressive position was.
White Mountain Wheels (see link on right) has an Excel spreadsheet that makes for interesting time trial analysis. It requires a several inputs including rider weight, equipment weight, weather conditions, CdA (aerodynamic drag), rolling resistance, power output, and course details. I’ve been using this model to calculate the theoretical CdA of my various time trial positions. I download gps (.hst) files off of motionbased.com for each TT course I want to look at, simplify the courses up into 20 or less segments, and input that into the WMW model. Inputs such as weight and weather conditions are pretty easy to determine. Wind and rolling resistance are a little bit of a wag. Calculations aren’t very sensitive to variations in rolling resistance, although wind calculations are. Wind is probably the largest source of error in the model. For the CBTT, the course is run in a loop and is pretty well protected from wind compared to other courses. This does help minimize the error created by wind. Power output is also easy, I just use the power numbers from the PowerTap. Using this methodology I can somewhat accurately calculate my CdA for various positions. I think it’s better than just comparing power output and speed because it takes weather conditions (air density) into account.
As I said in the second paragraph, the goal for tonight was not to get the fastest time possible, but instead to get the best calculated CdA possible. Assuming that this was the goal, the night was a huge success! Here are the CdA numbers:

The April 17 time trial was a massive disappointment because I had much higher expectations for my first time using the aero bars. In the May 25 time trial I had taken almost a full 90 seconds of the April 17 time with out using any aero equipment! This was largely due to average power increasing from 258W to 285W, but I do think CdA was better in cannibal position than with aero bars. On June 15 I performed some serious testing, doing intervals on the CBTT course with aero gear, including helmet (I got lots of funny looks), and achieved a calculated CdA of only 0.300 (at nearly 300W). This was extremely frustrating. However, after making some aggressive adjustments, I am very pleased to see that my calculated CdA for the June 18 time trial was a whopping 0.230. This value is even better than the benchmark CdA set by White Mountain Wheels for full TT gear of 0.239. Granted power output is suffering severely, but I think this can be fixed by making some minor adjustments to improve comfort. I am very encouraged to finally have achieved what I think is a good aerodynamic position.


2 comments:
Hey Jay,
interesting TT report!
I missed the sign up for the weekend CT crits but will try to get race day registration. If I see you there we can chat about your TT position. You know I'm nuts about TTs and like to share my limited experience. I've done some serious TT testing over the last 5 months. I know TT is a lot about science and having power data definitely helps but it's easy to get lost in too much science and forget the real world.
If you try to dial in for Fitchburg TT I would think do NOT take aerodynamics over power. It's 5 miles steady uphill 3-4 % (only the last 2 miles are flat/downhill). If you drop below 20 mph, riders often switch from aero bar to base bar anyway. You raise your body but generate more power.
In general, riding in very aggressive aero position (steep drop saddle to elbow pads; forward saddle etc) makes it pretty hard to generate good power. Road position is optimal for power output of the human body. The more radical the change, the bigger your loss. On the other hand, your gain in aerodynamics requires less power for a certain speed. The art of TTing is to find the best compromise depending on the course profile and condition. Flat 40 k TT, yes, it's really crucial to go as aero as possible. Shorter ones, 5-10 k, rolling or uphill, you really don't want to give up much of your power. I noticed a significant drop in power the first weeks/months I rode my aggressive TT set up (6-7 inches drop and saddle nose over BB). Indoor spinning in TT position actually helped a lot to train the muscles you need when in aggressive TT mode. But it really took time. A month at least. I tried to spin high cadence while tucked in the bars and it felt much harder. I also did one-legged spins while in TT drop and it's really hard to establish a smooth pedal stroke. The ultimate goal is to develop these muscles so you can close in to your road bike power output and then turn the aerodynamics into a really countable speed advantage. However, you may not get there within two weeks to Fitchburg so you may want to try to be conservative with your TT position.
It took me quite some time to find the best position for me but I think I'm dialed in now. But although I am reasonably fast on flat TT's I'm actually considering taking some steps back from the aggressivenesses for the Fitchburg TT.
my two cents...
more on Saturday maybe
Guido
guido!
thx for the message and for the advice on the TTs. i should really go test on the Longsjo course before the race, but i don't think i'm going to have time. i think you're dead on though that power comes before aerodynamics at this one. i'd like to be able to losen up my position just a bit and hopefully be able to get my power back.
see you at nutmeg
~j
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